posted by Jen at 07:59
interesting stuff, o moosemaster jen.its a fair point and well made, although i'm not sure that the phrase 'i love you' hasn't already been warped entirely beyond recognition of its (presumed) original meaning. you go as far to suggest this yourself by saying that 'i love you' is often interpreted as 'something scary' (often commitment in men, or as it is known, "the 'c' word"); i'm wondering whether we don't use so much not because overuse would dilute its meaning, but because its meaning has already been diluted to within a gnat's whisker of cliche? after all, as those who have been in love and used those words in that order know, there are only certain times when it can be said and it be known that it means 'i love you and am in love with you and you mean more to me than i can adequately articulate', rather than 'we have fun, don't we?'.its just a thought, and if i'm perhaps more cynical than most, then thats good for you guys.n.
You're probably right, o toastmaster - it has been diluted and probably doesn't mean quite what it should. However, there is nothing that has come to take its place in such an effective manner, and therefore we are still using the phrase for a variety of meanings. Although I'm sure that if someone said, "I love you and I'm in love with you and you mean more to me etc.." I would still take this as a good thing. Mind you, if someone said they had fun with me, that's also not bad.
Perhaps my comments will be taken with a grain of salt (maybe as they should be since I'm a theoretical outsider) but I don't believe that the phrase "I love you" has been marred or diluted in any way. Those who I believe you accuse of diluting it's real meaning have used it to death because of their lack of maturity or understanding of love itself. I used to do that myself. But I haven't used the phrase in quite awhile and after nearly a decade of adolescent experience and progressing through the "dating pool" I have come to realize that, at 23 years old, I've never truly been in love. I've just wanted it so bad in a few cases that I allowed "love" to take on an aleternate meaning. This is how I diluted it. But I don't believe that this ruins it forever for everyone. As far as you being more "ruthless"...I went through this myself not long ago. I let friends, family and significant others walk all over me. I don't think that ruthless is a good word to use here. I prefer "intolerant". Because that's what worked for me. I became less tolerant of the bull$h*t! And I didn't really lose any friends from it. Some of them are still rebelling against "the new me" because they're used to me being submissive. But along with a higher degree of respect, you also kind of strengthen your confidence that if you assert yourself, things won't blow up in your face which is usually the fear that keeps people submissive.Anyway, I'm rambling! Hope my 2 cents is at least worth that! Cheers!- The Outlawhttp://outlawedmind.blogspot.com
I suppose the phrase has less 'been diluted' than it has been used in situations which you realise later were not the right ones. So some people become more wary of using the phrase, and some just use it when they feel it will make a good impression or get them somewhere. There is a commercial here at the moment on tv with a guy on a sofa, watching a football game, and his arm stretched out round his girlfriend. He can't get to his beer, because it's in the hand that's extended round the girl, who's asleep. So he says, "I love you" to rouse her from sleep and make her cuddle up next to him, thus bringing his arm back into play and allowing him access to his beer. And the tagline is, "Only to be used when things are desperate..." I think this says a lot about our present use of the phrase!Also half the time we're too scared to use it anyway, in case the other person has an idea of what it means that differs from our own. There is just no answer to this....
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